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Maine U.S. Senate General Election Debate 2 (WMTW)

October 8, 2026 · 8:00 PM EDT Methodology v1.7.1 →
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Susan Collins

36 Claims
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Troy Jackson

27 Claims
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Susan Collins 51:17

“I'm chair of the appropriations committee, the most powerful committee in the senate.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Collins is confirmed as Chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, but calling it definitively 'the most powerful' is a characterisation that is widely echoed but not universally agreed upon.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 49:39

“Presque Isle was gonna cost sixty five thousand dollars more this winter [due to road salt tariffs].”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

The $65,000 figure for Presque Isle's tariff-related road salt cost increase is consistent with available evidence but traces back to Collins's own campaign materials and debate statements, with no independently sourced confirmation found.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 49:35

“The town of Frenchville, nine hundred people, was gonna cost an additional ten thousand dollars [due to road salt tariffs].”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The $10,000 additional road salt cost for Frenchville is confirmed by multiple sources, but the town's population is closer to 970–1,008, making the 'nine hundred people' figure a modest understatement.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 48:27

“no president went after Canada with blanket tariffs ever”

NOT SUPPORTED Click to expand

Multiple U.S. presidents imposed broad tariffs on Canadian goods well before 2025, directly contradicting the claim.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 47:20

“Every single time we've voted on the Canadian tariffs, I voted against them.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Collins voted against Canadian tariffs in both dedicated Senate floor votes on Canada-specific measures, but she voted with Republicans against at least one broader tariff-related amendment, making the 'every single time' framing imprecise.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 46:48

“Tariffs are actually constitutional responsibility of congress.”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

The U.S. Constitution explicitly assigns tariff authority to Congress under Article I, Section 8, confirmed by the constitutional text itself, the Congressional Research Service, Supreme Court precedent, and multiple independent legal analyses.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 45:52

“I prioritize the body worn cameras after the shooting in Minneapolis”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

Collins did secure $20 million in body-worn camera funding in the April 2026 DHS appropriations bill, and this came after fatal federal shootings in Minneapolis in January 2026, but the characterization that she 'prioritized' cameras is contested by her June vote against a Democratic bill that would have mandated agents wear them.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 45:21

“The body cameras don't even have to be turned over unless it's in the best interest of ICE — that is part of the legislation. Senator Collins put that money into them without any guardrails.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The 'best interests of ICE' disclosure standard is real and documented, but it comes from ICE's own internal administrative policy (February 2025), not from the legislation Collins helped pass; moreover, the legislation did include several specific guardrails, though critics argue they were insufficient.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 45:02

“ICE is responsible for four people being murdered in the United States”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Federal immigration enforcement agents have killed more than four people overall, and the specific figure of four applies only to a narrow time window (roughly September 2025–July 2026), with some of those killings carried out by Border Patrol rather than ICE specifically.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 43:57

“ICE is responsible for deporting violent criminals such as the member of the Venezuelan cartel that killed the twenty two year old nursing student”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The core facts are real — a Venezuelan man (Jose Ibarra) killed 22-year-old nursing student Laken Riley and has been linked to Tren de Aragua, and ICE does deport violent criminals — but the claim overstates by calling Tren de Aragua a 'Venezuelan cartel'; it is widely identified as a Venezuelan prison gang or criminal organization, not a cartel, and Jose Ibarra's own TdA membership was reported by DHS sources but not conclusively established in his own criminal proceedings.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 42:49

“ICE has murdered at least four people here in this country”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Deaths linked to ICE actions — including at least two fatal shootings of civilians and at least two deaths ruled homicide by medical examiners — clearly exceed four in number, but characterizing them as 'murder' is a contested moral and legal claim that official investigations and the government dispute.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 42:18

“Johann Sebastian Guerrero was murdered in the streets of Biddeford”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Johan Sebastián Durán Guerrero was indeed fatally shot by an ICE agent on a Biddeford street, but characterising the killing as 'murder' goes beyond what has been legally established, and the name used is slightly inaccurate.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 40:53

“I am the only Republican senator who voted for justice Sonia Sotomayor, justice Kagan, and justice Ketanji Brown Jackson.”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

Susan Collins is the only Republican senator who voted 'yes' on all three justices — Sotomayor, Kagan, and Ketanji Brown Jackson — at the Supreme Court level.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 40:07

“Senator Collins won't admit that she was wrong in putting Brett Kavanaugh on, which took away Roe versus Wade.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The core facts are real — Collins voted to confirm Kavanaugh and has declined to say she was wrong — but the claim overstates her singular causal role in Roe's overturning.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 38:51

“With Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat from Virginia, we introduced a bill to codify Roe v. Wade nationwide”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

Susan Collins and Tim Kaine (D-VA) did co-introduce a bill — the Reproductive Freedom For All Act — designed to codify Roe v. Wade nationwide, confirmed by both senators' official websites and the bill's legislative text.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 38:46

“Troy, from the year two thousand until he ran for the house seat in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen was very anti choice. He was for a bill that would not allow abortions when the mother's life was at risk.”

CORROBORATED Click to expand

Troy Jackson's anti-abortion record from roughly 2000 to 2013–2014 is well-documented across multiple outlets, and his 2010 candidate questionnaire responses show he left unchecked the option to allow abortion to protect the mother's health; however, the precise characterization that he supported a specific 'bill' barring abortion when the mother's life was at risk is only partially documented — the evidence is clearest for his questionnaire positions rather than a specific named bill.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 36:25

“This year, alone, this congress alone, I voted against president Trump one hundred thirty seven times.”

NOT SUPPORTED Click to expand

Available evidence directly contradicts the claim that Collins voted against Trump 137 times in this Congress alone; authoritative sources place her total opposition votes across both Trump terms combined at 76, with no source corroborating a figure of 137 opposition votes.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 36:06

“If you look at all of the votes that were cast I have voted with the administration about seventy two percent of the time.”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

Collins's ~72% figure appears to refer to CQ Roll Call's broader party unity score, which is a legitimate but distinct metric from the presidential support score — only one source directly corroborates the specific figure she cited.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 34:50

“Putting people like Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court that took away Roe Wade”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed to the Supreme Court and was part of the majority in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization (2022), which overturned Roe v. Wade.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 34:46

“the big beautiful bill that took five billion dollars out of our health care system here in Maine”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

The claim that the Big Beautiful Bill takes $5 billion out of Maine's health care system is supported by multiple independent sources, including the Maine DHHS official estimate and separate news reporting.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 33:16

“I ranked second in the entire senate on a per capita basis in bringing back federal funds to the state of Maine.”

CORROBORATED Click to expand

Multiple independent outlets consistently report Maine ranks second in the nation in per-capita earmarks/Congressionally Directed Spending, behind only Alaska, which aligns with Collins's claim — though her own office has at times claimed the top spot, and the claim conflates a state ranking with a senator ranking.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 33:05

“I have secured one point five billion dollars for six hundred seventy two projects all over the state of Maine during the past five years.”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

The $1.5 billion figure is broadly consistent with independently reported and official data, but it is a rounded figure (actual total: ~$1.484 billion), and the project count varies slightly across sources (670 in earlier accounts vs. 672 at debate time), preventing full independent verification of the exact figures.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 29:30

“I'm the one who authored the Social Security Fairness to restore the benefits to retired school teachers firefighters, police officers, and other employees.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Collins was a prominent co-author and original cosponsor of the Social Security Fairness Act alongside Senator Sherrod Brown, but official Congress.gov records list Brown as the sole Senate sponsor; calling herself the sole author overstates her formal legislative role.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 28:20

“If you're making a hundred and eighty thousand you pay ten thousand dollars in Social Security. If you're making five million dollars, you pay ten thousand dollars in Social Security.”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

The claim is accurate: under current law, both a $180,000 earner and a $5,000,000 earner pay the same amount in Social Security taxes (approximately $10,453 for the employee share in 2024), because the payroll tax applies only up to a wage cap of $168,600.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 26:08

“An affordable act premium in Maine is set seventy seven percent higher than what you would pay in New Hampshire.”

CORROBORATED Click to expand

The 77% figure matches the 2026 KFF benchmark premium data for Maine ($709) vs. New Hampshire ($401), a difference of ~76.8%, consistently reported across multiple outlets drawing on the same primary KFF/CMS dataset.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 25:04

“We're gonna lose five billion dollars here in Maine in Medicaid cuts.”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

The $5 billion figure is consistent with official Maine state government estimates of cumulative Medicaid losses over ten years and is widely and consistently reported across multiple outlets without contradiction.

Correction (08 October 2026): rating changed from corroborated to supported after the post-debate review; same figure as a companion claim rated supported.
CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 24:40

“We took a trillion dollars out of our health care industry so that we give people like Elon Musk the income tax cuts. That's what the big beautiful bill did.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The Big Beautiful Bill does include roughly $900 billion–$1 trillion in health care (primarily Medicaid) cuts and delivers roughly $1 trillion in tax cuts disproportionately to the wealthiest Americans, but the claim overstates precision on the healthcare figure (CBO puts it at ~$911 billion, not a full trillion) and frames the tax cuts as specifically for 'people like Elon Musk' when in reality Musk publicly opposed the bill and the tax benefits flow broadly to the top 1%, not a named individual.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 24:10

“Many people who need insulin pay as much as a hundred and fifty dollars a month.”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

The claim that many insulin users pay as much as $150 a month is supported by multiple independent sources, including a 2026 ADA survey finding nearly 40% of insulin-dependent respondents pay more than $150 monthly.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 23:59

“I'm the author along with Jean Shaheen of New Hampshire of a bill that would put a thirty five dollar cap on the cost of insulin per month.”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

Collins and Shaheen are confirmed co-authors of the INSULIN Act, a bipartisan bill that would cap insulin costs at $35 per month, supported by multiple independent official and press sources.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 22:08

“Fifty five hundred Mainers rely on those health care clinics [Penobscot County health care clinics]”

NOT VERIFIABLE Click to expand

No source was found confirming that 5,500 Mainers rely on Penobscot County health care clinics; all available data for the primary clinic in that county (PCHC) report patient volumes many times larger, but the specific figure of 5,500 cannot be confirmed or traced to a particular clinic or subset.

CONFIDENCE 1/3
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Susan Collins 21:36

“Maine has already received in the first allotment hundred ninety million dollars [from the fifty billion dollar rural health care fund]”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

Maine did receive $190 million in first-year funding from the $50 billion Rural Health Transformation Program, confirming both specific figures in the claim.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 20:36

“The risk of transmission line did not fail. The PUC just came back out with... there were bids for it. There are people that are gonna go forward.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The current northern Maine transmission line RFP did attract bids and the PUC selected winners in August 2026, but the claim glosses over the documented failure of an earlier attempt at the same project in 2023.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 19:25

“Maine has the fourth highest electric bills in the country”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Maine has among the highest electricity rates per kWh (roughly 3rd–5th nationally), but by average monthly electric bill — the more direct measure of what households actually pay — Maine ranks around 27th according to 2024 EIA data, not fourth.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 18:53

“Trump voted against a bill that would have reduced electric [bills] for the average household by two hundred [and] seventy-five dollars a year”

NOT SUPPORTED Click to expand

No evidence supports the claim that Trump 'voted against' any bill projected to save the average household $275/year on electricity; presidents cannot vote on legislation, and no source links the specific $275 figure to a bill Trump opposed or vetoed.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 18:14

“a big part of our energy problems are Ukraine, the natural gas, that we've seen those spikes. And now with Iran, we're seeing spikes again here big time, and that's where the rate increases are coming from because the cost of fuel is what's driving our energy in this state.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The core claim that Ukraine-linked natural gas price spikes and fuel costs drive Maine energy rate increases is well-supported by multiple authoritative sources, but the claim that Iran is causing 'big time' spikes in Maine energy rates is overstated: Iran-related disruptions have spiked global and European/Asian LNG prices significantly, but expert sources explicitly note the effect on U.S. domestic natural gas prices has been muted.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 16:40

“It is under Troy's leadership that electric rates in Maine became the fourth highest in the nation.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Maine's electric rates are currently around the fourth-highest in the nation — that part of the claim is supported — but attributing that ranking specifically to Troy Jackson's leadership overstates his causal role.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 15:04

“Senator Collins and her husband are making money off of this war.”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

Thomas Daffron's ownership of stock in defense contractors and oil/gas companies that have benefited from the Iran war is confirmed by Collins's official Senate financial disclosure filing, but whether the couple has actively realized financial gains from the war specifically is an inference drawn primarily by partisan sources rather than independently verified reporting.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 14:48

“She voted against it nine times before she voted for it five times.”

NOT SUPPORTED Click to expand

Jackson reversed the numbers: Collins voted against Iran war powers resolutions five times and later voted for them nine times, not against nine and for five.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 14:05

“The second day that Joe Biden was in office, he canceled the Keystone pipeline that would have brought oil from Canada to the United States”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Biden revoked the Keystone XL pipeline permit on his first day in office, not his second, as confirmed by multiple authoritative primary sources; the characterization of the pipeline as carrying oil from Canada to the United States is broadly accurate but simplified.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 13:27

“I have voted nine times to bring the war in Iran to an end”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

The claim that Collins voted nine times to end the war in Iran is consistent with available reporting and was directly corroborated by a Bangor Daily News fact-check, though an exact independent tally of all nine individual votes has not been confirmed by a second fully independent primary source.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 12:35

“that hundred million is only gonna last less than a week”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

The claim that $100 million would last less than a week is consistent with documented FEMA disaster spending rates, both during major hurricane responses and at average annual spending levels, though the precise context of Jackson's claim could not be verified from available debate transcripts.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 12:27

“the average in the United States is anywhere from twenty point five to twenty three point six million barrels a day”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The lower bound of the claimed range (20.5 million b/d) is broadly consistent with EIA data for recent years, but the upper bound of 23.6 million b/d is well above any recorded or projected U.S. petroleum consumption figure.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 11:52

“he was focused on getting the hundred million barrels from our European allies”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

The claim that 'he' (Trump/the administration) was focused on getting 100 million barrels from European allies is confirmed by multiple independent, high-quality sources reporting on a real G7 agreement reached on October 2, 2026.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 10:57

“the administration has one hundred million barrels of crude oil and diesel coming to this country from our European ally”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The 100 million barrel figure is real and widely reported, but the claim misstates its nature: it is a G7 coordinated global market release from stockpiles — not a transfer from a single 'European ally' specifically destined for the United States.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 8:18

“When I was appropriations chair in Maine, I put forward a four hundred million dollar heating package and got bipartisan support to get it out in emergency fashion”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

A nearly $400 million heating package did pass the Maine Legislature with bipartisan support as emergency legislation, and Jackson played a leading procedural role, but he was Senate President—not appropriations chair—and the bill was proposed by Governor Janet Mills, not Jackson.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 8:10

“she advanced the big beautiful bill out of committee that actually cut LIHEAP funding, cut SNAP benefits, obviously cut our health care”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Collins did vote to procedurally advance the Big Beautiful Bill out of Senate floor debate (not a committee in the traditional sense), and the bill does cut SNAP benefits and Medicaid/healthcare; however, the bill does not directly cut LIHEAP program funding, and Collins ultimately voted against the bill's final passage.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 6:31

“PACs are limited in giving five thousand dollars for the primary, five thousand dollars for the general election”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The $5,000-per-election limit applies specifically to 'multicandidate' PACs; non-multicandidate PACs are subject to a lower, inflation-adjusted limit of $3,500 per election for the current cycle.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 6:19

“corporations cannot give directly to Collins for senator or for Jack for senator”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

Federal law (FECA, 52 U.S.C. § 30118) explicitly prohibits corporations from making direct contributions to federal candidate committees, including Senate campaign committees such as 'Collins for Senator' or 'Jack for Senator.'

CONFIDENCE 3/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 6:06

“Senator Collins is taking money from corporations almost daily to make sure that they get the contracts they want.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

There is documented evidence that defense contractors donated to Collins-aligned committees in patterns correlated with contract awards, but the specific assertion that she takes money 'almost daily' to guarantee specific contracts is a significant overstatement of what the sources actually establish.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 5:44

“Senator Collins has gotten pharmaceutical checks and certainly got contracts for them too.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Collins has verifiably received substantial pharmaceutical industry campaign contributions, and there is a documented instance of pharmaceutical company family donations coinciding with a VA contract, but the claim that she personally 'got contracts for them' overstates what is established — the contracts went to companies, not to Collins, and a direct causal link has not been independently proven.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 5:08

“Troy has flip flopped his position on issues, and it usually has to do with the issues that his son has been hired to lobby him on.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Troy Jackson's son did lobby on issues where Jackson's positions overlapped, and Jackson did flip on gun control while his son was lobbying for the gun safety coalition, but the causal link — that the flip-flops were caused by or 'usually' tied to his son's lobbying — is disputed by fact-checkers and the public record shows other explanations (e.g., the Lewiston mass shooting) and bipartisan support for some of the legislation.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 4:34

“I have never accepted any donations from big tobacco. Troy has.”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

The claim that Troy Jackson's political organization accepted big tobacco money is confirmed by the Washington Post and state finance records; Collins's own tobacco-free status is consistent with available evidence but cannot be fully confirmed from primary sources alone.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 4:02

“Senator Collins doesn't want to ban insider stock trading”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Collins opposes a complete congressional stock trading ban, but she co-authored the 2012 STOCK Act specifically to ban insider trading by members of Congress and has publicly stated she believes insider trading is and should remain illegal.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 3:33

“Senator Collins has taken money from corporations and gotten contracts through the appropriations committee”

DISPUTED Click to expand

There is documented evidence that Collins received substantial corporate and contractor donations and steered federal contracts through the appropriations process, but Collins' office and the FBI deny any improper quid-pro-quo arrangement, making the claim as a unified accusation of corrupt exchange genuinely disputed.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 2:38

“Three thousand students have gone through the composite labs because of the funding that I've been able to obtain.”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

The composite labs student figure is consistently reported as 'more than 2,600' or 'more than 2,900' in official sources — close to but not confirmed at 3,000.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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Susan Collins 2:27

“In the past five years, I've secured five hundred million dollars for various projects for the University of Maine.”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

The $500 million figure for UMaine System funding over five years is directly stated in Collins' own Senate office press releases and echoed by independent news outlets, but both sources ultimately trace back to Collins' office as the original data source, limiting the verdict to plausible rather than supported.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 1:49

“Donald Trump is a convicted felon, thirty four felons”

SUPPORTED Click to expand

Donald Trump was convicted of exactly 34 felony counts by a New York jury on May 30, 2024, making him a convicted felon, as confirmed by multiple independent primary sources.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
TJ
Troy Jackson 1:45

“senator Collins is voting with Donald Trump ninety six percent of the time”

OVERSTATED Click to expand

Collins does vote with Trump at a high rate, but the most current and comprehensive data puts the figure at 92–95%, not 96%, making the specific claim slightly exaggerated.

CONFIDENCE 3/3
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Susan Collins 1:11

“The Biden administration's Justice Department, the FBI, the FEC, and the judge who had to sentence this crook all found the allegations to be false.”

DISPUTED Click to expand

The claim that the Biden DOJ, FBI, FEC, and sentencing judge all found the allegations against Collins to be false is disputed by credible investigative reporting and official records.

CONFIDENCE 1/3
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Susan Collins 0:52

“The submission by the University of Maine was made a year and a half before there were any contributions from this crook.”

PLAUSIBLE Click to expand

The documented timeline is broadly consistent with Collins's claim of 'a year and a half,' but the evidence comes from the Collins campaign's own records and FEC filings, not from a fully independent corroboration of the submission date.

CONFIDENCE 2/3
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